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The Guardian's '1,000 novels everyone must read' is like an enormous book blog. Rather didactic in approach, it's naturally got people talking. Today I had a look at Comedy. I'm glad to see Evelyn Waugh, Kingsley Amis and Geoffrey Willans given their due, but where is Jane Austen? The introduction to the list rightly points out that comedy can have a serious purpose; can't a book be romantic and funny?

Stephen Moss (who he?) writes of Decline and Fall, ‘Waugh's bleak, amoral first novel is a young man's book, best read by young men (and perhaps the odd woman).’ That's me then, the odd woman, because I've read the book countless times and not just when I was young. Angela Thirkell is listed, hurrah! but an oddly chosen title, I thought: Before Lunch. ‘Published in 1939, Thirkell's irresistible comedy of manners is the most well-known of her Barsetshire series’. I wouldn't have thought that was true and it's not one of my favourites. What do other Thirkell fans think? Michael Frayn is rightly on the list but for Towards the End of the Morning (very funny) and not The Tin Men (even funnier). In fact, one of my favourite comic novels.



Any omissions/strange inclusions strike you?

Edit: I've just realised that Adrian Mole has been overlooked. Just his luck.

Date: 2009-01-20 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sloopjonb.livejournal.com
Can't they just post the damn list of 1000 books? I'm not wading through that lot.

Date: 2009-01-20 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmemadam.livejournal.com
I skimmed...

Edited to say I've just heard Richard Thompson on Front Row. Strange but haunting.
Edited Date: 2009-01-20 07:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-01-20 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sloopjonb.livejournal.com
If it hasn't been chucked in the Great Move, I sent Martyn a Richard Thompson CD. I do believe [livejournal.com profile] huskyteer has one, too.

Date: 2009-01-21 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huskyteer.livejournal.com
I have! Thanks again!

Date: 2009-01-21 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmemadam.livejournal.com
Does he sing See My Friends on that? I loved it.

Date: 2009-01-21 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sloopjonb.livejournal.com
No, but said track is available for the princely sum of 79p on Amazon. He sang it on Sunday night, and it was, dare I say it, rather better than the Kinks' original. (I was most impressed how on that track he made his guitar sound like a sitar, and on the very next number made it sound like Benny Andersson's piano).

Date: 2009-01-20 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debodacious.livejournal.com
I thought it was an odd Thirkell choice - as an introductory read I would have thought Summer Half or Wild Strawberries would be better.

Jane Austen's books were all included on Saturday's Love list which is why they're not in Comedy.

Heven't looked at Family which is today's offering, but I liked the Comedy choices more than Crime.

Date: 2009-01-20 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmemadam.livejournal.com
Love that icon!

Those are the Thirkells I would have picked.

I thought Jane Austen ought to be on both lists. Dickens ought to be on every list as his books surely come into all categories.

Family, eh? I'll check that out tomorrow.

Date: 2009-01-20 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lurpak.livejournal.com
The world's hypocrisies and deceptions are targets that must be attacked, comedy the literary weapon of choice.

No Catch-22, and no Sue Townsend??

Date: 2009-01-21 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmemadam.livejournal.com
I keep meaning to say how much I love that icon!
Is it Carl Larsson? I used to have some prints of his work up in the kitchen.

I was outraged that Sue Townsend had been missed out but I now see that Adrian Mole is in the Family category.

Catch 22 would certainly seem a candidate for black comedy.

Date: 2009-01-21 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lurpak.livejournal.com
It's actually from a painting - Girl in the Kitchen - by Anna Ancher, a Danish artist who worked in Skagen. I can see the similarity between their work now you've mentioned him!

I am very glad Adrian Mole hasn't been overlooked :-)

Date: 2009-01-22 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmemadam.livejournal.com
Thank you! I'll look out for more by her, it's charming.

Date: 2009-01-21 05:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lethe1
Re Adrian Mole, have you seen that there is a new one out? The Lost Diaries of Adrian Mole, 1999-2001, with an alluring red dustjacket. I managed to resist temptation only because I haven't read beyond The Growing Pains.

Have you read the whole series?

Date: 2009-01-21 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmemadam.livejournal.com
I think I'm only missing one in the series and can't remmeber which it is. I love them; Sue Townsend's social comment is brilliant and always spot on for the time she's writing about.
I'll wait for the paperback of the new one.

Date: 2009-01-22 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gghost.livejournal.com
I'm surprised at the Thirkell choice, too.

Date: 2009-01-25 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Before Lunch is one of my favourite Thirkells, but I think I enjoyed it so much because I'd read August Folly first. I agree it wouldn't be my choice for an introduction to her writing. And Decline and Fall is certainly my favourite Waugh - what odd women we are, to be sure.

Date: 2009-01-25 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmemadam.livejournal.com
We could form a club :-)

Date: 2009-01-25 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geraniumcat.livejournal.com
Oops, sorry, can't get the hang of the new computer logging me out - the anonymous commenter on Thirkell and Waugh was me.
GCat

Date: 2009-01-25 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmemadam.livejournal.com
Don't you just hate it when they do that? I feel offended: 'you ought to know me by now!'

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